@nasser @ivan OK next we need an arbitrary historical class distinction, like lawyers / paralegals or doctors / nurses. Sysadmins and eyeteeguys?

@n1ckfg @ivan in arabic at least in lebanon "lawyer" and "engineer" are titles on par with "doctor" eg my dad would introduce himself as "the lawyer walid nasser"

@nasser @ivan I feel like American English tried to do that with "Esquire" but it ended up just being used by movie villains

@n1ckfg @ivan i mean...... the overlap is not zero...